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    俄罗斯和世界上最可怕的邻居生活在一起。这解释了最近俄罗斯的军备升级

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    Today the Russian military must contend with a larger more modern chinese military on it’s border. If China were to invade Pacific Russia, the Russian military woiuld be powerless to stop it. The Chinese military is larger and in better condition and better trained. Russia would face the same logistical problems the Nazis faced in WW2. With out nuclear weapons the Chinese could not be pushed back. China is in need of resources Russia has. If China was able to catch the Russian Pacific fleet in harbor, and simultaneousely strick Russian airbases in the middle of the country, it would take Russia months to recover and counter attack.

    现在边境上的俄罗斯军队必须要和一个跟加庞大与现代化的中国军队竞争。如果中国入侵远东,俄罗斯军队将完全无法抵挡。中国军队更加庞大,装备更加精良并且更训练有素。俄罗斯将会同样面临二战时纳粹的后勤问题。不使用核武器根本就没法击退中国人。中国急需俄罗斯的资源。如果中国把太平洋舰队封锁在港内,并同时对俄罗斯在中亚的空军基地进行打击,那么俄罗斯需要数个月才能从中恢复并组织反击。

    Not only the russians have to worry.If the Chinese stop lending money to the US, or simply collect some, the States would collapse. US Government is already bankrupt (meaning, it can’t do without borrowing from abroad).
    Russians can be the best of your friends, even if you have a bad case of Russophobia.

    不仅俄罗斯人需要担心。如果中国人停止借钱给美国或者少借点,美国就要崩溃。美国政府已经破产了(这意味着它必须从国外借钱)
    俄罗斯人可以是你们最好的朋友,即便你有俄罗斯恐惧症。

    Russians live in the most dangerous neigborhood in the world.
    This explains the recent upgrade of Russian Military.

    俄罗斯和世界上最可怕的邻居生活在一起。
    这解释了最近俄罗斯的军备升级。



    LMAO @ you, testiculese
    “If China were to invade Pacific Russia, the Russian military woiuld be powerless to stop it.”

    1) The Chinese aren’t enemies. Russia and China hold co-operation exercises every year. If I were American then I might be worried, but thankfully, I’m not.
    2) If, for some reason, China does invade, it will only be to be blown to smithereens. Russia stores the largest tactical nuke arsenal just to deter such a conventional invasion. They take the scorched earth tactic to a new level. When a brigade dis-engages and retreats, a nuke is launched, “scorching the earth behind”. The Chinese aren’t stupid. They are not going to lose everything and gain nothing.

    “The Chinese military is larger and in better condition and better trained.”

    1) Size isn’t everything. Asymmetrical warfare is designed specifically to deal with larger enemies.
    2) “Better training”, that is a matter of opinion. Without a doubt, the Spetsnaz and VDV are better trained than almost any Chinese force, that for sure.
    3) Better condition, lol, most of the Chinese equipment are watered down versions of RUSSIAN ones. Like the Su-27 and the J-11.

    “Russia would face the same logistical problems the Nazis faced in WW2.”

    1) Yeah right. Dozens of bases and airfields within the borders vicinity would present a real logistical nightmare. 2) Most of the Russo-Sino border is formed by rivers, and most of the rest is mountainous and deemed impassable to tanks and heavy equipment. Get past that and you have Siberia I think it was Rommel, who once described the North African desert as being “a tactician’s paradise, a quartermaster’s nightmare”. The Siberian tundra can be “a tactician’s nightmare, a quartermaster’s nightmare”.
    3) Being on the offensive, it would be the Chinese that would face supply train problems.

    “If China was able to catch the Russian Pacific fleet in harbor”

    There is a reason why the Admiral Nakhimov is being commissioned to the Pacific Fleet. Adding to that already awesome firepower, would be the Varyag. Between them, they carry 36 powerful supersonic cruise missiles. If the Chinese ever try to “catch the Pacific Fleet”, those P-700s would rain down on them. And that’s just two ships.

    笑尿了@Testiculese

    “如果中国入侵远东,俄罗斯军队将完全无法抵挡。”

    (1)中国不是敌人。俄罗斯和中国每年都在一起进行军事演习。如果我是美国人我会很紧张,但是很幸运,我不是。

    (2)即便如此,如果不管出于何种因素,中国入侵了,他们只会被炸成灰。俄罗斯有世界上最大的核武库来阻止这种常规入侵。他们将焦土政策提升到一种新的高度。当一个旅被击退,核弹就发射了,摧毁他们撤出的地点。中国人不是笨蛋,他们不会做这种有百害而无一利的事情。

    “中国军队更加庞大,装备更加精良并且更训练有素。”

    (1)规模不代表这全部。非对称战争就是被设计用来对付更加庞大的敌人的。

    (2)“更训练有素”,这只是个主观因素。毫无疑问,(俄罗斯)特种部队和空降兵比大多数中国部队更加训练有素。

    (3)“更加精良”,笑死我了,大多数中国装备是猴版俄罗斯装备。比如Su-27和J-11的关系。

    “俄罗斯将会同样面临二战时纳粹的后勤问题。”

    (1)对。边界上的大量基地和机场将会面临真正的后勤问题。

    (2)大部分中俄边境是根据河流划分的,并且剩下的多数是不适合坦克和重装备通过的山地。能够通过这些地形然后占领西伯利亚就是隆美尔说的:占领北非沙漠是“战术家的天堂,后勤官的噩梦”。(而)西伯利亚的永久冻土是“战术家的噩梦,后勤官的噩梦”。

    (3)从进攻方的角度来看,中国将会命令铁路运输问题。

    “如果中国把太平洋舰队封锁在港内”

    这就是为什么“纳希莫夫海军上将”(Admiral Nakhimov)号被分配到太平洋舰队原因。再加上原有的强大火力——瓦良格号。它们总共携带36枚威力强大的重型超音速巡航导弹。如果中国想“封锁太平洋舰队”,这些P-700s将会如雨点般飞向他们。而这只是两艘船的火力。(译注:“纳希莫夫海军上将”为“基洛夫”级巡洋舰,2012年后(至少2013年)开始进行现代化改装)



    I pity any country that goes to war with the Russian Federation, even if it is China. The losses would be so high that the CPC would have to worry about losing power. Russia will fight to the last child, it just needs an invasion to provoke it into doing so.

    我为与俄罗斯联邦开战的任何国家感到遗憾,即便是中国。(中国)损失将会十分巨大,以至于TG会考虑可能失去政权。如果有必要,俄罗斯将会战到最后一人。



    As always, an excelent comment by vorontsevich (aaya).
    Comments are sometimes more interesting than the pictorials.

    和往常一样,vorontsevich 又写了一个极好的评论
    评论比正文更有意思。



    Well, I try to not post long comments, but usually whenever I read a comment from Testiculese, I just can’t help myself. :DReply

    好吧,我其实不想写长评论的,但是每次读到Testiculese的评论我就忍不住了。



    Historical border of the China proper is the Great Wall of China, and historical border of the Russia proper is Oka river (1-2 hours to drive to south of Moscow).

    中国的历史边界应该是长城,俄罗斯的历史边界应该是奥卡河(从莫斯科向南开一两小时车就到了)



    山下智久
    well, i have to say it’s a pity… no permanent enemies, no permanent friends, only permanent interests!!

    (没有永远的敌人,也没有永远的朋友,只有永远的利益!!!)
    好吧,我想说这很遗憾……没有永远的敌人,也没有永远的朋友,只有永远的利益!!!



    Imperialism is not communistic.

    帝国主义者不是共产主义者



    Except when it is, which is constantly.

    得看什么时候是,而且哪一个是更长久的。



    Anyway those islands were given to China not long time ago. Thanx to russian patriot Putin.

    不管怎么说这些岛屿不久前被割让给中国。这都得感谢叛国者普京。



    Doubt it was thanks to Putin himself, they handed Zhenbao Island back to the Chinese in ’91.

    这能算到普京头上么?他们在91年就把珍宝岛归还给中国了。



    Nevermind, bad info…?

    别在意,弄错了?



    Yes. That was a bad decision. The islands were a small place, but is sent out a bad message.

    是的。那是一个错误的决定。这些岛屿虽然很小,但是这种行为却给出了个错误的信息。



    TASS reports: Yesterday, drunk Chinese soldatesque opened fire on Soviet tractor, which was peacefully plowing the field on Soviet territory. In accordance with the peaceful foreign policy of USSR, the tractor only shot back and flew away.

    塔斯社报道:昨天,醉酒的中国士兵向苏联边防军开火,子弹毫无侵略性地掉在了苏联领土上。根据苏联的和平外交政策,边防部队把子弹都打回去后就逃跑了。



    Also heard that joke here in (what was then) Yugoslavia, back in the ’80s. :)

    80年代也听过一个类似的南斯拉夫版笑话。



    Please give us a break, this joke was heard thousand times in various forms. The same with radio. The same with radio “Radio Yerevan”

    让我们歇歇,这个听过N遍的笑话变种是同一个电台“埃里温电台”的



    I heard different version: “The tractor responded with rocket artillery salvo and flew away towards Moscow. Comrades from Kremlin warn comrades from Beijing that if this situation occurs again, they’ll send combine harvesters instead!”.

    我听过一个不同的版本:“边防军用火箭炮进行了还击然后逃向了莫斯科??死锬妨止耐揪姹本┑耐荆喝绻庵智榭鲈俅畏⑸?,我们将会派出联合收割机!“



    chinese literally got their ass torn apart…

    中国人简直菊花都要被爆了……



    chinese were humiated

    中国人没人性



    ‘Soviet revisionism that entered into collision with USA against China has no future’ Collision should be read as collusion. The mistake is not intentional, is it?

    “苏修联美抗华没有好下??!”这里的“Collision”应该是“collusion.”这个错误是故意的吧。



    Communist is Communist right?

    都是共产主义者,不是吗?



    Bullets are bullets

    可子弹就是实打实的子弹。



    Interesting note: after one of the assaults against Soviet positions Chinese soldiers had found the battlefield scattered with burned out vehicles, charred bodies and detonated ammunition. Due to the nature and scale of destruction, they were convinced that Soviets had used laser weapons against their comrades. As it turned out, it was less sci-fi, but no less devastating “oruzhye” – rocket projectiles wtih incendiary warheads fired from BM-21 launchers.

    有趣的记录:在一场突击后中国士兵发现了战场上遍布燃烧着的车辆、烧焦的尸体和被引爆的弹药。根据现场的损毁程度来看,他们认为苏联人一定是用了激光武器。结果是,这根本不是科幻小说,而是BM-21冰雹发射的燃烧火箭弹的杰作。



    I heard about this conflict, but this is the first time I see pictures of it.
    Thanks ER.

    我听说过这次冲突,但是第一次看到照片。
    感谢ER

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